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Alex S's avatar

Thanks for this, Ryan I've subscribed as a result. I was interested in the point that the targets of terrorism are less the victims, but that the real targets are those that witness it.

I do safety analysis for my Jewish community, in the face of recent pro-Hamas propaganda and provocations in North America. I've come to realize that while many in our community perceive the threats as threats of violence, I've come to recognize that the goal of these agitators and influencers isn't necessarily violence, but intimidation. Violence would be met with swift enforcement, and sympathy for victims, but “intimidation” tactics cause harm for targets while leavong room for equivocation: phony ‘free speech’ arguments, excuses not to enforce existing laws, or the minimization of victims’ harm. Coupled with propaganda campaigns that have been uncannily successful at withering public and institutional support for our community.

Ryan McBeth's avatar

Thank you

Cat With Issues's avatar

Considering its support of terrorist organizations, would the former Soviet Union have qualified as a terrorist state?

Jeff Zekas's avatar

Bader Meinhoff gang murdered an Airforce general. Any ideas on how and why?

Jeff Zekas's avatar

It would be nice to have a printed version of this series

Ryan McBeth's avatar

you know, it's funny, I was considering that, but it would cost so much money to get professionally edited and published.

Steve's avatar

This is why I Subscribe.

Robert Layten's avatar

So where are Mass and School Shootings placed? What about the historical US in regards to the civil rights movement/Jim Crow/church burnings/lynchings/etc? While I would consider the Oklahoma federal building domestic terrorism, what about the protests in Minniapolis, and now in New Jersey where the DHS is calling the protestors domestic terrorists? When does the rhetoric cause the event?

Fredawan's avatar

"Mass and School Shootings", I would call them what they are, murder, there is no political attempt to shape the behavior of society.

"church burnings/lynchings", I would say those are act of terrorism as it attempted to influence part of the populace to behave in a certain way.

"protests in Minniapolis", well protest is a right of the people, now how it is executed is a different question

"calling the protestors domestic terrorists", this is unfortunate that in any dispute we resort to outlandish descriptions, everyone is immediately a Nazi, Antifa, Communist or terrorist because it makes it easier to distinguish yourself from them

Steve's avatar

"protests in Minneapolis", well protest is a right of the people, now how it is executed is a different question

I would say it stops being a Protest about 3.7 seconds After the 1st rock is thrown. thing is groups like Antifa/Black Bloc really are domestic terrorists.

Alex S's avatar

Sounds like you’ll find at least a part of that answer in Chapter 10. Mass murder, in the form of a school shooting that's not motivated by advancing or attacking an ideology, can have other motivation: hate, anger, revenge, ego, insanity, medical condition, etc. The pointlessness rests heavily on the witnesses, who might - at some level - seek to change their behavior to avoid recurrence of such pain and horror, but can't, because there's nothing to change.

In those cases the violence is as much beyond their control as a natural disaster.