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Richard Kudrna's avatar

It astounds me how poor Israel is in public relations. The amount of easily disproved anti Israel propaganda disseminated by media is staggering. This guy here does more all alone than the rest of Israeli PR

http://travelingisrael.com

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Gabriel (he)'s avatar

Bravo!

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Jim Morton's avatar

Unintended consequences can be serious

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Steven Stad's avatar

Isn't it more reasonable to suggest that Syrian rebels were waiting for Hezbollah to be diminished by Israel, but that they overall preferred that H be occupied fighting Israel. Therefore they did not actually wait for Lebanon ceasefire to mobilize, but timing was largely coincidental. Related, but coincidental.

Also, I would suggest that Israel was/is more focused on winning than PR so theory is a little weak. Pulling punches in Lebanon would unacceptably weaken the very powerful IDF.

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John 2's avatar

Israel has its back to the wall with a bunch of insane goat chasers trying hard to murder every Israeli man , woman and child they can find. No option for Israel other then kill them before the can kill you. And yes America needs Israel, that our unsinkable aircraft carrier near the oil.

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Robert Gardner's avatar

Ryan, I know you have a sore-spot about the New York Times, and you resent or at least criticize them for not having more vets on staff. With respect, I would suggest that you have a kind of reverse bias of that which you are accusing the Times for having. Because your main life experience is in the military, you think only people like you can legitimately understand or report on military related stories. But personal life-earned expertise can also provide blinders which allow us to see things from a very limited point of view.

Reporters, from the Times or anywhere else, have to report on all kinds of things they know nothing about, so mistakes are made inevitably, but overall the profession of journalism is supposed get more hits than misses and I think that is true of more times than it is not (not counting internet click-bait and similar sources of information). In my time as a television producer, at various times I had to do stories about the Roman Empire, the Arab Israeli conflict, the death of James Dean, the history of Islam, the Ark of the Covenant, the Holocaust, Leonardo Da Vinci, the melting West Antarctic Ice sheets and on and on, from the sublime to the ridiculous. I was not always correct, as hate mail from viewers would sometimes remind me but I did my best and I generally did pretty well.

The idea that one flawed news story had some giant geopolitical effect is kind of simplistic. Actually, the Times has long been criticized for being pro-Israeli and the suggestion that they are anti-semitic (if I understand you correctly) is just silly. And Israel didn’t fall from International grace from a single event or news story. They have been on the path they are currently on, for many, many years. The entire peace movement and the Israeli left in general was destroyed by the Palestinian suicide bombings of the second Intifada (I was in Israel at that time). They have been marching resolutely to the right ever since, with terrible costs to the Palestinians. In spite of international condemnation over many years, they have continued their very severe occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, and increased the influence of the right wing settler movement, including a stated desire by these right-wing parties to annex the West Bank. The Gaza war is just the most recent action that has attracted such almost universal international condemnation.

Other than the fact that I disagree with your entire premise in this case, I always enjoy your posts.

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Craig Goldfarb's avatar

Gosh, what took you so long. Your complaint and chiding of anything that you interpret as pro-Israel that Ryan writes is tiresome and boorish. Your analysis of the situation based on your alleged experience lacks any depth and perfectly illustrates not only your bias but total lack of understanding. First you told us you were a journalist now you are a television producer. The only career I can affirm for you is a propagandist.

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Robert Gardner's avatar

Hey, Craig, great to hear from you again. I think you are my biggest fan, judging by your repeated posts responding to my wisdom, insight and pithy observations. Just to let you know, it is possible to be a journalist and a television producer all at the same time. Propaganda is another field. Hope you enjoy the Holidays.

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Craig Goldfarb's avatar

For the most part I don't think anything you say has veracity. Your just a standard Hate Bot trolling for the Islamic Jihad as far as I can tell. I'm done now so you can stand down.

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Craig Goldfarb's avatar

Hahahahaha

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Robert Gardner's avatar

Merry Christmas Craig, and thanks for continuing to spread the love and good spirit of the season.

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Steven Stad's avatar

Write much. Know little.

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Tim_TEC's avatar

"The way to get it right is to hire good people."

Ryan once again gets to the heart of the matter.

One other thing about the astounding victory of the rebels. Turkey saw that Assad was weak and it was a brilliant opportunity to get rid of Assad. That allowed Turkey to turn their militias in Syria loose and topple the Assad regime. Once done, that frees up the Turkish aligned militias in Syria to turn their sights on Erdoğan's and Turkey's real enemy: the Kurds.

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Ian's avatar

NYT anti-Semitic?? They constantly play down the ‘Israeli’ Haganah’s actions; they are more critical of student protests than they are of an American-sponsored genocide …

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William's avatar

Israel was violating the rules of war and killing journalists way before that hospital was hit. Their behavior became worse after the horrors of Oct 7.

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Mark Goggin's avatar

Israel IS just running around indiscriminately killing innocent people though. The IDF and Israeli government are the bad guys in this story.

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