Several points from an old (1975-99) tanker 1) The T62 was about the equal of the base line M60/M60A1. As a matter of fact, it was built because of the M60. " It was accepted into service as a direct reaction to the new American M60 tank, which had been dispatched to the 3rd Armored Division in the USAREUR (U.S Army in Europe) in December 1960" Not the equal of M60A1 RISE/Passive (Reliability Improvement of Selected Equipment - they forgot the lousy heater! - Passive = Image Intensification Sight ("Starlight Scope") or M60A3 TTs (Tank Thermal Sight), which can see at night or reduced visibility without revealing their position 2) The US used the xenon white/ir light searchlights into the 1980's. https://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-11-5855-250-12-and-P.pdf. It is long since obsolete. 3) That these vehicles still mount IR equipment indicates to me that they are a) being sent to a training unit b) being sent to a facility to be upgraded with - among other things - more modern fire control systems. 4) non-Upgraded t-62;'s are also known as "targets"
While we were told and believed what you say, the truth is that the T-62, although a reaction to the M60, was never actually comparable to the even the basic M60-series tank. The T-62 wasn't a particularly successful tank, and once the T-72 showed up it was quickly relegated to second-echelon uses. It served in Afghanistan with the Soviet Army, and was shown to be inadequate repeatedly by Israel in 1973 and later.
(The later M60A3 tanks turned out to be surprisingly superior to even the T-72, in the end. Because of ammunition improvements, even the 105mm gun could take out a T-72 from event the frontal aspect. The original M1s were far superior, and by the time of Desert Storm the T-72 was as outdated as the T-62s it replaced.)
The T-62s that are appearing in Ukraine (they have been IDed and several KOed) are likely because they were retired fairly quickly after an aggressive upgrade program. They were less worn out than the T55s at retirement. There is likely a sizable amount of 115mm ammunition in storage for them, since the number of foreign users of the type was small. With stocks of usable T-72s dwindling, the next most modern candidate is the T-62. Even if it is outclassed by the T-72s and T-80s (and M1s, Leopards, etc., provided by the West) of Ukraine.
From what I understand, neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians can or want to mount a mechanized offensive. As a result, in the meantime the Ukrainians are just holding defensive positions and the Russians are just trying to kill as many Ukrainian troops as possible, without trying to capture any substantial territory.
We also saw that in the Ukraine war no tank is really survivable: the Russians haven't had difficulty in destroying Abrams, Challengers and Leopards. Tanks' only use is as company-level mobile pillboxes or infantry fire support.
Old Russian tanks are easily serviceable by any (Russian) farm boy and the Russians have massive amounts of 115mm ammunition they need to use up.
Using T-62s against Ukraine now makes a lot of sense.
Several points from an old (1975-99) tanker 1) The T62 was about the equal of the base line M60/M60A1. As a matter of fact, it was built because of the M60. " It was accepted into service as a direct reaction to the new American M60 tank, which had been dispatched to the 3rd Armored Division in the USAREUR (U.S Army in Europe) in December 1960" Not the equal of M60A1 RISE/Passive (Reliability Improvement of Selected Equipment - they forgot the lousy heater! - Passive = Image Intensification Sight ("Starlight Scope") or M60A3 TTs (Tank Thermal Sight), which can see at night or reduced visibility without revealing their position 2) The US used the xenon white/ir light searchlights into the 1980's. https://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-11-5855-250-12-and-P.pdf. It is long since obsolete. 3) That these vehicles still mount IR equipment indicates to me that they are a) being sent to a training unit b) being sent to a facility to be upgraded with - among other things - more modern fire control systems. 4) non-Upgraded t-62;'s are also known as "targets"
While we were told and believed what you say, the truth is that the T-62, although a reaction to the M60, was never actually comparable to the even the basic M60-series tank. The T-62 wasn't a particularly successful tank, and once the T-72 showed up it was quickly relegated to second-echelon uses. It served in Afghanistan with the Soviet Army, and was shown to be inadequate repeatedly by Israel in 1973 and later.
(The later M60A3 tanks turned out to be surprisingly superior to even the T-72, in the end. Because of ammunition improvements, even the 105mm gun could take out a T-72 from event the frontal aspect. The original M1s were far superior, and by the time of Desert Storm the T-72 was as outdated as the T-62s it replaced.)
The T-62s that are appearing in Ukraine (they have been IDed and several KOed) are likely because they were retired fairly quickly after an aggressive upgrade program. They were less worn out than the T55s at retirement. There is likely a sizable amount of 115mm ammunition in storage for them, since the number of foreign users of the type was small. With stocks of usable T-72s dwindling, the next most modern candidate is the T-62. Even if it is outclassed by the T-72s and T-80s (and M1s, Leopards, etc., provided by the West) of Ukraine.
YTou arec showing you know NOTHING about the subject
OOooo. You got me there.
Sure did - you are an ignoramus who thinks he kniows way more than e does
Old garbage. Like everything Russian.
I wonder is these might be from N Korea. Don’t they have a variation of the T62?
Anyways. It was nice seeing these tanks fully intact. Most of the footage I’ve seen of them, is after they were destroyed by the US in Iraq.
Every time there's military equipment moving by rail, some armchair general starts going off about WWIII or some offensive somewhere. Every. Time.
From what I understand, neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians can or want to mount a mechanized offensive. As a result, in the meantime the Ukrainians are just holding defensive positions and the Russians are just trying to kill as many Ukrainian troops as possible, without trying to capture any substantial territory.
We also saw that in the Ukraine war no tank is really survivable: the Russians haven't had difficulty in destroying Abrams, Challengers and Leopards. Tanks' only use is as company-level mobile pillboxes or infantry fire support.
Old Russian tanks are easily serviceable by any (Russian) farm boy and the Russians have massive amounts of 115mm ammunition they need to use up.
Using T-62s against Ukraine now makes a lot of sense.